tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post1875092064588976265..comments2024-03-17T12:51:46.412-07:00Comments on Cutting Through The Crap: Mass debatersSid Schwabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-4894209019954548682009-04-24T12:31:00.000-07:002009-04-24T12:31:00.000-07:00Frank:
"1: I was referring to the 'Straw Men' you...Frank:<br /><br />"1: I was referring to the 'Straw Men' you've been arguing with who support 'Torture'"<br /><br />Straw man? Look who's wearing his fancy trousers today! However you used it incorrectly, Frank.<br /><br />--Sam SpadeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-25513060135948339272009-04-24T12:15:00.000-07:002009-04-24T12:15:00.000-07:00For years I'd wondered why we tortured so many peo...For years I'd wondered why we tortured so many people, so this is quite enlightening. Bush shouldered with such equanimity the burden of killing 4,000+ US troops and countless innocent Iraqis that I believed he always felt in his heart that he'd done right. I don't believe he's a sadist. So, it must be. He pressured the interrogators for any confession at all. Presumably what he got was so harebrained that he did not bother to present it to the public.<br /><br />Absent evidence to the contrary, the reasonable conclusion is that this torture made no direct difference in our safety. Consider the fanfare with which the Bush administration announced the arrest of the "terrorist cell" in Florida a couple of years ago. It turns out these men were halfwits. Had the administration uncovered anything truly alarming we would never have heard the end of it.<br /><br />--Sam SpadeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-68591732020430383302009-04-24T09:49:00.000-07:002009-04-24T09:49:00.000-07:00Well, Frank, it's only your first attempt, so I sh...Well, Frank, it's only your first attempt, so I shouldn't expect much. Appreciate the effort. With practice, you'll get it down.<br /><br />1) Sorry, don't follow that at all. And, for the record, torture is specifically defined by international laws to which we've signed on. Plus, I like Barbara Mikulski.<br /><br />2) Not even close. The RWS want to ban gay marriage, and many are against civil unions. BHO is for civil unions and is against banning gay marriage. He says he doesn't personally feel comfortable with gay marriage (honest, and fair enough) but doesn't support law to ban it. <br /><br />3) Actually, it's totally consistent. I've deleted a few comments; ones that are nasty, insulting, off point, destructive, and useless. What I've never deleted is honest disagreement. <br /><br />4) Yep. Scared me shitless.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-612086414803546482009-04-24T09:26:00.000-07:002009-04-24T09:26:00.000-07:00OK Sid, are you really a Surgeon? The ones I know ...OK Sid, are you really a Surgeon? The ones I know wouldn't type that much in a career...<br />1: I was referring to the "Straw Men" you've been arguing with who support "Torture". Most people think "Torture" is something really hideous and painful, like a hot Poker in the Eye, or looking at Barbara Mikulski.<br /><br />2: Was just trying to point out how Ironic (dontcha think?) that your president you've been practically masturbating to for the last 6 months holds the same view on SSM that those Crazy Right Wing Screamers do...He's just smoother in the way he says it.<br /><br />3: Hmm a lecture on how to carry on a conversation from a guy who's used to people shuttin up when he says to... <br /><br />4: Oh, CNN just reported an Anthrax and Plague bomb detonated in Washington State...HA! Made you Look...<br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-91150689009850721032009-04-24T08:33:00.000-07:002009-04-24T08:33:00.000-07:00Frank, maybe you should print this out and keep it...Frank, maybe you should print this out and keep it by your computer. See, here's how it works: someone writes a blog post. You decide (for reasons of your own, and please, don't tell me) to read it. Then, you decide to post a comment. Okay so far? <br /><br />See, the thing is, having made those decisions, the "logical" thing (look it up, write it down, keep it by your computer) would be to respond to the point of the post to which you are commenting. That way, it makes some sort of sense. It's like having a conversation: one person says a thing, the other responds in what might be called a linear fashion, the first one thinks about the response, says something else. And so on... Thoughts are expressed, exchanged, meaningful, even pleasant, interaction (look it up, keep it by your computer) occurs. Maybe, possibly, ideas get refined, minds change, learning (look...) happens.<br /><br />In social settings, it's what normal people do. (Well, yeah, there's the problem all right.) I'm fine with having you drop by and mutter under your breath the same things, to yourself, over and over, no matter what I've said. It's company. But, with practice (maybe you could do it in the OR, where you face is covered, if it's too painful or difficult and you're afraid people will know) you can actually learn to have an interesting conversation. You'll just have to trust me on this until you try: it can be rewarding.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-39294745657914732392009-04-24T08:29:00.000-07:002009-04-24T08:29:00.000-07:00How's Retirement, Senator Craig??How's Retirement, Senator Craig??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-67517043602561759252009-04-24T08:23:00.000-07:002009-04-24T08:23:00.000-07:00It would never have occurred to me, in a million y...It would never have occurred to me, in a million years, to imagine the contents of "Barney Frank's playroom." But then, I'm not gay.Spiny Normanhttp://spinynorman.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-68419189500495126492009-04-24T04:25:00.000-07:002009-04-24T04:25:00.000-07:00Jeez Sid, more Blow-Up Straw Men than Barney Frank...Jeez Sid, more Blow-Up Straw Men than Barney Frank's playroom...Need I remind you that your President doesn't support Gay Marriage either?? His quotes on the issue could be Miss Californias her's were more moderate actually... nor do the voters in 90% of the States that have voted on it...Might take a 100 Kiloton wake up call for him to get Religion about "Torture"(I still prefer "Agressive Interogation")...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com