tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post2506361803665208763..comments2024-03-17T12:51:46.412-07:00Comments on Cutting Through The Crap: Beyond Outrage, Beyond HopeSid Schwabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-10003806920172524572010-03-05T09:28:30.843-08:002010-03-05T09:28:30.843-08:00Have we all read about the Agent Provocateur and F...Have we all read about the Agent Provocateur and FBI informant Hal Turner?<br /><br />A frequent guest on the Sean Hannity radio show; The FBI trained and paid this beauty to spread seditious speech and racist hatred on his own shock jock show.<br /><br />The idea was to get the crazies to reveal their conspiracies to Turner, who would then shop them to the Feds.<br /><br />Now, he is being tried on criminal charges of making threats of violence against public servants.<br /><br />He is claiming "free speech" but shouting 'fire' in a theater is not protected speech, is it?<br /><br />Read it at:<br /><br />http://rawstory.com/2010/03/fbi-paid-racist-shock-jock-hal-turner-in-excess-100000/<br /><br />It made me wonder about some of the contributors to this blog.<br /><br />EugeneInSanDiegoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-49329356204818855622010-03-05T09:04:17.117-08:002010-03-05T09:04:17.117-08:00"Nice. You demonstrate the liberal moral: it&..."Nice. You demonstrate the liberal moral: it's just fine to hate someone, as long as you really, really didn't like him/her."<br /><br />Umm... That's what you are saying jd: if you feel sufficient rage at any accused, it's just fine to deprive them of due process.<br /><br />Once that becomes the standard of justice, walk very quietly because accusation will then be equal to guilt.<br /><br />If that happens, no one will be safe; if we discard the shield of law to attack evil, there will be nothing left to shield us from evil.<br /><br />Those who dine with the devil get their noses bitten off.<br /><br />EugeneInSanDiegoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-34664164203227646232010-03-05T07:57:30.561-08:002010-03-05T07:57:30.561-08:00Nice, jd: exactly what I expected from you. Missin...Nice, jd: exactly what I expected from you. Missing the point entirely, going into pre-programmed mode, and pointing fingers everywhere. <br /><br />The question is not about guilt or innocence. Not even that of the Dick. It's about an attack on lawyers who defended terrorists, as if they themselves are terrorist sympathizers, as opposed to people doing what the law requires. <br /><br />You can't see that, and never will. So you resort to your usual off-point hackery which only goes to demonstrate the danger to which I point. <br /><br />And, yes, I most certainly do consider the Dick to be felonious. In fact, he's admitted it. The difference between you and me, evidently, is that I believe he deserves a trial, and I wouldn't attack his lawyer. Who knows? A guy who represented him might some day turn up to defend gay marriage. <br /><br />And, no, I didn't wish Liz dead; only that she be kept in a basement. Let's be precise, okay? <br /><br />Also, as I've said several times, I haven't watched Olbermann in a year or so; I don't need that sort of self-affirmation. But I do look at clips of Maddow, when they interest me. She happens base her opinions on fact, a rarity; and she gives real opposing views a chance to be heard. Unique.<br /><br />By the way, the Constitution has been interpreted. You know, by that supremey courty thing. About depriving people of rights. And recently, too. <br /><br />Hate is okay? Sure. Humans have a way of doing that. It's a matter of how you handle it. Might be a little too subtle for you. Go lie down.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-86173722688130581392010-03-04T23:10:04.889-08:002010-03-04T23:10:04.889-08:00You have all strayed from the point, for which Sid...You have all strayed from the point, for which Sid will surely smack you down.<br /><br />Please note that Sid considers terrorists to be the accused, deserving of a trail and everything.<br /><br />Oddly, though, he declares the Vice President to be felonious on his own say so. And wishes his daughter dead.<br /><br />Nice. You demonstrate the liberal moral: it's just fine to hate someone, as long as you really, really didn't like him/her.<br /><br />And, by the way: the Constitution you haven't actually read nowhere guarantees non-citizens on foreign soil the rights of a US citizen. I know you don't know that, because Rachel Maddow hasn't told you. Nor your hero Olbermann, the news anchor of your favorite network.<br /><br />jdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-42614361742886158392010-03-04T17:07:37.554-08:002010-03-04T17:07:37.554-08:00There's something worse than republicans? Who ...There's something worse than republicans? Who knew?<br /><br />I grew up in East L.A. Drekman, I know all about bullies and what to do to them :)<br /><br />EugeneInSanDiegoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-50898002299023635912010-03-04T16:47:15.274-08:002010-03-04T16:47:15.274-08:00Frank
No offense here, but following your logic, ...Frank<br /><br />No offense here, but following your logic, you might want to apologize to your daughters...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12610902346996230826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-29101954637907892532010-03-04T15:59:53.967-08:002010-03-04T15:59:53.967-08:00You got beat up alot didn't you Eugene??
and I...You got beat up alot didn't you Eugene??<br />and I'm not a Republican...<br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-17359642623253592772010-03-04T14:15:51.209-08:002010-03-04T14:15:51.209-08:00Here are some nice tidbits from a meeting of RNC f...Here are some nice tidbits from a meeting of RNC fundraisers and the strategy presented for luring the flies into the maw of the republican spider.<br /><br />The presentation was delivered by RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart to top donors and fundraisers at a party retreat in Boca Grande, Florida on February 18, a source at the gathering said.<br /><br />The small donors who are the targets of direct marketing are described under the heading “Visceral Giving.” Their motivations are listed as “fear;” “Extreme negative feelings toward existing Administration;” and “Reactionary.”<br /><br />Major donors, by contrast, are treated in a column headed “Calculated Giving.”<br /><br />Their motivations include: “Peer to Peer Pressure”; “access”; and “Ego-Driven.” See it all at:<br /><br />http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33866.html<br /><br />Let's vote on this guys:<br />Is Drekman raising his daughters to be "Ego Driven": or will he bludgeon them into being fear driven reactionaries - like him?<br /><br />I vote the latter because he doesn't have the bucks to buy access.<br /><br />So relax Drekman, you will never out- Cheeny, Cheeny!<br /><br />The report is a smoking gun Drekman, pointed right at your empty head. It confirms what we have all known about you for a long time. I must say though, that for once, my contempt for you is only exceeded by that I feel for The RNC.<br /><br />EugeneInSanDiegoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-44573176605241297972010-03-04T10:15:34.412-08:002010-03-04T10:15:34.412-08:00Marshall,
No Offense, but your generation...Marshall,<br /> No Offense, but your generation sucks Donkey Balls.<br />My daughters were born in the 90's and LOVE Sarah Palin, the Bushes, and America too. Can't wait till the oldest gets to vote in 0-12...<br /> And not to be an A-hole, but its y'alls own party who's blocking the Healthcare Abortion.<br />Not that there's anything wrong with that.<br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-26262981947575002012010-03-04T09:59:52.821-08:002010-03-04T09:59:52.821-08:00Thanks, Marshall. It is up to people like you, tha...Thanks, Marshall. It is up to people like you, that's for sure. I hope there are enough of you. <br /><br />You are right about Obama; which makes it even more tragic: having the right person in the office at the right time, and letting the opportunity for actual problem solving be denied by this hyperpartisan and insane bunch of idiots...Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-66109380307442354132010-03-04T09:40:53.551-08:002010-03-04T09:40:53.551-08:00As much as I agree with this, the only possible be...As much as I agree with this, the only possible beacon of light in what is currently an utterly despondent political climate is the fact that we have an unabashed intellectual in the position of power. We currently hold the upper hand in the current battle of pandering to the lowest common denominator vs. striving to be elite. <br /><br />The louder they scream, the more we are reminded that they lost and are unable to deal with it. Have faith that my generation (born in late 80s) can see through this and its honestly pretty pathetic.<br /><br />*Long time reader of Surgeonsblog and this one, first time poster.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12610902346996230826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-44336210813961507362010-03-04T04:01:02.789-08:002010-03-04T04:01:02.789-08:00Umm so does this mean you Won't be volunteerin...Umm so does this mean you Won't be volunteering for Chaney/Palin O-12 ????<br />I think Liz Chaney's sort of hot, or at least she would be if she'd kiss her girlfriend in public...<br /><br />Lighten Up Francis,<br /><br />Frank, I Heart Dick Chaney, Drackman...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com