tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post581320145450702545..comments2024-03-17T12:51:46.412-07:00Comments on Cutting Through The Crap: The PresidentSid Schwabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-64359035483889113712011-01-14T15:45:39.529-08:002011-01-14T15:45:39.529-08:00Not afraid of her; in fact, I hope she's the n...Not afraid of her; in fact, I hope she's the nominee. But, as ought to be obvious, I am afraid of what is says about our country that someone so shallow, so ill-informed, so intentionally divisive, so self-absorbed, so easy with lies, could be considered by ANYONE to be presidential material; or, for that matter, even worth listening to.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-39770824891468345122011-01-14T15:19:55.766-08:002011-01-14T15:19:55.766-08:00You said, "On the other hand, I only repeat m...You said, "On the other hand, I only repeat myself in a vain attempt to make you see what I'm trying to say. When the frustration mounts as my words bounce off, ungrokked, I sometime raise the temperature. For that, I'm sorry. Mostly because it doesn't work. Nothing does."<br /><br />DITTO!<br /><br />PS - I can only imagine the more hateful comments toward me as compared to the ones I still see. Molly's comments to me over the mosque (Back in September - I think)definitely caused me to say forget this and is why I left. Not worth the bad feelings.<br /><br />You have seen my comments ...from the *conservative* girl. I do try to be healing and fair and kind. You don't have to agree politically to *respect* another human being.<br /><br />And you have seen the comments from those you support and are in agreement with.<br /><br />I ask you ...which comments are vile, cruel and hurtful?<br /><br />Frank doesn't count. No offense meant because he is intentionally over the top and you two have this sparring thing going on. He's even on your sidebar. And that's nice. Sure is good at riling people up though. <br /><br />But, I know I do not spew mean things at people and tell them how they think, what their news sources are or how they will vote. I know not to generalize and lump everyone into the same mold. And despite what anyone here thinks ...I am an independent thinker and the very fact that I repeatedly have to defend that is ludicrous and even more ludicrous is my thinking I am heard or taken seriously.<br /><br />Your apology is accepted and I apologize for any angst I have caused you or your readers.<br /><br />To answer BL ..I genuinely came in here to find common ground and praise the president and the event for healing and inspiration.<br /><br />The rising star comment was a sincere observation on my part ..not a vote. I explained my observation in the comment posted in the older post.<br /><br />I did not know that stating Sarah Palin is a rising star would be such a HOT button! But ...now that I see it is ..I have to ask ...what are you all so afraid of? If she is the moron and all the bad things you say about her ...you should not be afraid. She'll fizzle out.SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-24992694778031946352011-01-14T12:45:14.710-08:002011-01-14T12:45:14.710-08:00And so now I wasted alllll that timne ..defending ...And so now I wasted alllll that timne ..defending myself and you did not print it.<br /><br />And I just posted in the other one. and wasted alll that time.<br /><br />I spoke from my heart.<br /><br />You censored me.<br /><br />You allow a lot of vile stuff.<br /><br />I gave a good explanation and you censored it.<br /><br />And I doubt you will print the other one now.<br /><br />Very disappointing that I did not get to defend myself and I did say some good things.SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-72032712568121797842011-01-14T12:09:10.442-08:002011-01-14T12:09:10.442-08:00Seaspray: believe it or not, I didn't publish ...Seaspray: believe it or not, I didn't publish a couple of your comments to keep you from getting a ration of sh*t. In fact, I've not published a couple of comments directed at you. <br /><br />I do go over the top sometimes; but your comment about Dershowitz was not just that he explained what "blood libel" is, but that he wasn't bothered by Palin's use of it, as if that made it okay. I pointed out in a couple of subsequent comments that he hardly is the final answer on whether it was offensive or not. Nor does it change the fact that it was a blown opportunity on her part to be wise. Obama's far better tone wasn't just because he was speaking at a service. It's because he's far better at rising above the personal. She never made it past high school sensibilities (or lack thereof.)<br /><br />Nor have I ever suggested it was her and her alone that was responsible for the violence and hatred that's become our political way of life. She's but one of many, nearly all of whom are on the right side. She's deliberately divisive, inflammatory, and paranoid, in very sharp contrast to Obama, but entirely in synch with <b><i>all</i></b> of the RWS™, who number far too many to list.<br /><br />Finally, the fact that there are some Jews who were not offended by her use of the term doesn't change the fact that, as I linked for you, there were also many who were; or, much more importantly, that it was a shallow attempt to make it about her, to get attention. Because that's who she is. And it was, as I've said repeatedly and as you've repeatedly failed to see, internally contradictory even from paragraph to paragraph of her speech. <br /><br />Since I have the mute button, I can repeat myself all I want, but you can't. On the other hand, I only repeat myself in a vain attempt to make you see what I'm trying to say. When the frustration mounts as my words bounce off, ungrokked, I sometime raise the temperature. For that, I'm sorry. Mostly because it doesn't work. Nothing does.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-18506660301255875162011-01-14T11:55:27.969-08:002011-01-14T11:55:27.969-08:00Jill: I can't defend it. I do delete some of h...Jill: I can't defend it. I do delete some of his stuff, which tells you how bad it must have been. I guess I keep thinking he's only half serious... As I said, I can neither defend nor explain it.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-2483498854535482392011-01-14T11:39:06.582-08:002011-01-14T11:39:06.582-08:00Frank - I know you are being you and you and Dr S ...Frank - I know you are being you and you and Dr S enjoy the off the wall sparring ... and Ellen is probably used to the razzing, but she is a sweet lady... play nice with her. :)<br /><br />Nice to see you out and about Ellen. :)SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-81002553030259499012011-01-13T21:18:47.761-08:002011-01-13T21:18:47.761-08:00Sid,
Why don't you mute Drackman? What a cre...Sid, <br />Why don't you mute Drackman? What a creep.<br />JillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-5605252030659651682011-01-13T10:39:36.474-08:002011-01-13T10:39:36.474-08:00Jeez, Ellen,
not everything's about YOU...
I...Jeez, Ellen,<br /> not everything's about YOU...<br />I counted 8 "I"s and a "My" in your 3 paragraphs.<br />And nobody cares what anyone's father did, MY Dad dropped bombs on North Vietnamese Schools, I mean Factories, do you here ME bragging about it?<br />Seriously, your dad got awards for speaking? Clap Clap Clap.<br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-17483897859998821102011-01-13T10:29:05.501-08:002011-01-13T10:29:05.501-08:00Excellent speech. Hopefully this quiets the finger...Excellent speech. Hopefully this quiets the finger pointing and infllamatory speech for a while.<br /><br />Regards,<br />PTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-87752617761203308862011-01-13T03:00:03.307-08:002011-01-13T03:00:03.307-08:00Great Speach,
couldn't even see when h...Great Speach,<br /> couldn't even see when he turned to face Mecca...<br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4988839706387198339.post-52514568504765685412011-01-13T02:01:15.291-08:002011-01-13T02:01:15.291-08:00Thanks for posting the transcript, Sid. For a mome...Thanks for posting the transcript, Sid. For a moment, I thought it was YOUR writing -- but then I realized I had heard those words earlier tonight...<br /><br />It's odd. While I was reading this, I heard it not in Obama's voice, but the deep, rich voice of my deceased father, Leonard L. Kimball, who won awards at the University of Michigan for his college debating and speaking skills. <br /><br />Dad would have loved this speech, and I think he would have enjoyed knowing that a black man from Illinois was now President of the United States. I remember that I was introduced to politics as a young teenager a few years older than Christina. Found this photo from 1952:<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow"> http://twitpic.com/34n0ut#</a>Ellen Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10689933781339538684noreply@blogger.com