If the light-speed collapse of Afghanistan proves anything, it’s that, from day two, our involvement was a predestined failure. It did, however, make weapons manufacturers, Afghan “officials,” and warlords rich; and goosed the opium and meth industries.
Any president would have retaliated after 9/11. Bush chose invasion. Alternatives are hard to conjure, so probably all others would have, too. Severe economic sanctions on the birthplace, funders, and protectors of al Qaeda, namely Saudi Arabia, would have made sense, had we not been addicted to their oil, nor our politicians to their cash. Only one legislator, California’s Barbara Lee, foresaw the inevitable and voted against the war.
And it was inevitable. Not for nothing, across centuries, has Afghanistan been considered the graveyard of empires. With its neighbors looking the other way or aiding the Taliban, “winning” from half a world away was exceptionalistic, neo-con hubris.
Had Rumsfeld not let bin Laden escape when they had him in Tora Bora, the US could have claimed “Mission Accomplished” and left. Maybe then, basking in victory, Bush’s Iraq invasion – and the lies behind it -- wouldn’t have occurred. But invade we did. If the die wasn’t already cast in Kabul, it was then.
Maybe if Carter and Reagan hadn’t armed and trained the mujahedeen to fight the Soviets, creating what became the Taliban, 9/11 plotters wouldn’t have had safe haven. But some say when those jihadis forced the Russians out, the end of the USSR began. So, worth it?
Twenty years, thousands of American lives, a couple trillion dollars better spent here, by Bush, Obama, Trump, and, briefly, Biden, claiming we’d created an uncorrupted, viable government there. Building, equipping (now in Taliban hands), training an army, 300,000 strong. (Far fewer, probably: audits found many more salaries paid, by the US, than identifiable people.)
Desperate to be the one who ended the war, Trump “negotiated” an art-of-the-deal with the Taliban, committing the US to complete withdrawal, leaving out of it the Afghan government and military leaders, who called it a complete capitulation.
Declaring the Taliban future partners who’d fight terrorism, who’d magically become good guys, Trump set a date certain for leaving, bragging it couldn’t be undone. Immediately, the Taliban knew Afghanistan was theirs, and set about taking it, village by village, bribe by bribe, defection by defection, months ago.
The final sweep confirms the one-sidedness of Trump’s “deal.” His usually fawning GOP would now like you to forget what he did.
President Biden had two choices: after twenty years, acknowledge the obvious; or commit forever to defending a people no longer willing to defend the corrupt government we’d given them. Aware, surely, it could cost future elections, he made the tougher choice; the one previous presidents promised but never delivered.
Having planted my stake firmly in favor of pulling up stakes, I must say President Biden handled the denouement very badly. It’s understandable to have presumed that, twenty years in, our custom-built Afghan government and military would at least forestall, if not prevent collapse. But didn’t they know what the Taliban were doing? Had they no eyes in villages?
Evacuating our civilians and thousands of theirs who’d helped us at great personal peril should have had the highest priority. Chaotically, frightfully, it’s happening now. Hopefully, not too late.
Biden’s Monday speech was forthright; explaining his decision, taking responsibility for mistakes. Was it a compelling counter to hypocritical, CYA (see above) screams from the right? Does a bear use public restrooms?
Facing Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression, brilliantly effective distraction and disinformation, Democrats can’t afford mistakes. They’re already fighting amongst themselves instead of producing a coherent, resonating message.
If ever messaging should be easy, it’s now. Republican leaders and refusers are wholly responsible for the resurgent pandemic, uncaringly making it worse, even as their ICUs fill with younger and younger victims. Outside hospitals, corpse-cooling trailers have reappeared.
They’re pretending the January insurrection was a pleasant winter picnic, and – the law and order party – claiming the arrested, felonious perpetrators are “political prisoners.” Heroes. Trump all but literally called for violence against the defenders. Only the irredeemably Trumpofoxified aren’t appalled.
Fast as they can, they’re legislating voting obstacles for non-Trumpists. Threatening election workers. Blocking aid to Americans in need. And still, while heatstroke kills, fires rage, glaciers melt, electric grids fail, acidifying oceans rise, sea creatures die, and water from the Colorado River is rationed, denying climate change. All to keep wealthy investors and corporate polluters on board. At whatever cost to everyone else.
Professionally-thickened skulls are impenetrable. For America to endure, in people and parchment, thoughtful citizens must vote in enormous numbers: the antipode of a sure thing. Maybe we should invade Grenada again.
The GOP may have scrubbed and scrubbed, but photographers' photos are generally out of reach. Here's one that is sure to be dug up and plastered online if and when Pompeo declares his candidacy. If he didn't bake the cake, he certainly helped to write the recipe and stir the mix!
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With very little photo editing, he could easily be made to be kneeling before the Taliban. (Of course, I would not do that.)
The right-wing televangelist industry's favorite leader, El Trumpo, has a cult-like attraction to the republican base. They believe he is their only hope for stopping abortions. They urge ministers to withhold communion to Biden and Kerry and all voters who support them. And, they hypocritically look the other way as El Trumpo denigrates immigrants and other minorities.
ReplyDeleteBiden is absolutely courageous and correct to lead us out of Afghanistan now. Naturally, it will be messy and unpredictable, but the alternative is unthinkable and idiotic.
Reuters Photo Album
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We shoulda trained the girls to fight and had the men take cooking classes and how to scoop manure from the animal stalls.
ReplyDelete"Striking videos show Afghan women surging forward and leading men in a Kabul street protest against the Taliban"
"Stunning videos of brave women leading men in protests against the Taliban on the streets of Kabul have emerged online.
Many Afghan women now fear for their lives and safety under brutal Taliban rule, which has historically brutally restricted the rights of women and girls.
But some were seen marching in front of and alongside men during protests on Thursday, chanting slogans and holding flags aloft.
A crowd of Afghans took part in demonstrations on Thursday, which marked 102 years since Afghanistan's independence from Britain in 1919. According to Al Jazeera, protesters were seen waving the national flag in protest against the Taliban,
In one video, a woman is seen raising her fist, urging the men around her to move forward and keep marching."
https://news.yahoo.com/striking-videos-show-afghan-women-051246827.html
So there's the proof...The effort to get these refugees out was sabotaged.
ReplyDeleteDrumpf and Steven Miller strikes again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc35eiFjk98
This reporting, which I saw on Rachel Maddow's Friday night show, made me as angry as I've been in a long time, and you all know that is saying something! It is really going to take a generation to rebuild the government after the dismantling and destruction of the Republicans. As is so often recited by politicians and talking heads, we are SHOCKED but not surprised.
DeleteOur country feels so stagnant. I don't feel the forward movements I voted for, well not with the velocity I expected. I know I need to temper my expectations with reality--not since the 1930s have we fought such virulent Fascism. My parents, born in 1918 and 1920, used to get a "look" on their faces when remembering the 30s and 40s. I understand that look now.
Oh, and BTW, other than elevated cholesterol, I am a perfect picture of health for a 66 year old woman! I don't want to take a statin drug, but I will because my doctor is telling me to. As for my malais, she said she feels much the same way I was feeling at times. Nice to know even a doctor gets the blues sometimes (like cowgirls!). A little Rodney Crowell/ Emmylou Harris/ Patty Loveless reference for y'all.
I think James Carville has it right within the first two or three sentences
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_lmh9QGV4c
It's going to take a massive effort to get these people out. This Marine deserves a medal.
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I don't recall where you served, Smooth. I saw the letter through VoteVets.org, signed by 4300 veterans, supporting President Biden's position. What are your feelings as this airlift unfolds?
DeleteI was 2/7 weapons co. Dragon plt. 1st Mar Div.
DeleteThis was my battalion commander. He also wrote letters for peers to sign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Van_Riper
This is the history of my unit...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Battalion,_7th_Marines
My unit was called "the hardest hit battalion in the Corps this year ," in 2008"
I served at Camp Pendleton after MCRD San Diego. I went to ITS there and 0351 school as well. From there it was 29 Palms, Korea, Okinawa. We went to Fort Irwin to learn Russian everything and Coronado(SEAL's). There was mountain training, winter training, and training just to be training training...lol One was near Tahoe and another in S. Korea somewhere. I never stayed in one spot for long.
About the only thing we didn't do was jump out of airplanes. My specialty was lugging a 32 lb. wire guided rocket called "The Dragon".
"The basic missile, the M222 missile weighed 14.6 kilograms and was 744mm long in a 1154mm long launch tube.[14] The fairly basic warhead could penetrate 330mm of armor plate.[15][16]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M47_Dragon
Also mines and booby traps. There's always C4 laying around and an assortment of mines/mine detection and removal items. Those anti tank weapons Drumpf withheld from Ukraine is the upgraded anti tank/bunker weapon I used.
As you can see...2/7 is not the "tip of the spear". 2/7 is like the pointiest part of the tip. While stationed in Okinawa our little unit covered 3 of the 7 seas. 72 hours or less to anywhere we are responsible for is it basically. I was in back in the 80's. I never saw combat.
These days it's officially an expeditionary unit. Back in my day my unit was the 1st gen version of todays expeditionary Marine battalion.
How I feel?...in Part 2
I think it's necessary. I'm not sure how anyone could expect more from us. Not even the UN wants in there.
DeleteI think that we were set to fail during the Drumpf surrender. I think we shoulda left when we got OBL.
I think that trying to train a population that's largely illiterate is futile. There's very few who want to defend their country. That's self evident. They thought we'd never leave and acted like it. They simply layed down.
Let's get everyone who wants to get out, out. Then never go back. Use this war dividend on the American people. Get rid of politicians who support wars all the time.
It's hard to blame someone when not a single nation is staying to fight in Afghanistan. If America ain't in it? Then everyone is out. But we'll give air support and intelligence! Nopers, American boots is what everyone wants. Then bitch and moan when it doesn't turn out all perfect like a video game. But make no mistake, only America has the resources and ability to do anything. Everyone else is window dressing so it doesn't look like we are doing literally everything almost.
I hope we don't see a massacre. We'll see.
I think we should be flying to these peoples homes and evac them.
Thank you, Smooth. I don't understand most of the shorthand and acronyms you used but I do understand your description "the pointiest tip of the spear". Men and women like you make me understand the limits of my own courage. Thank you for serving.
DeleteI think the Israelis have the right idea and plan. Everyone serves from a certain age in any number of roles. Whether it is their military or other service position, all young people give time to serving their country. We need to do that too.
It looks like the evacuations are moving at an astonishing clip now. 21,000 people on Monday and over 70,000 as of yesterday. I'm trying not to think of this in political terms, because those are people and families and overall, the more we get out of there, the better.
"I think the Israelis have the right idea and plan."
DeleteIt is for them. They are a tiny country with few people. A "Draft" is the only way they could maintain a fighting force. Also, they can be overrun any second.
The USA by contrast uses it's methods and is the best fighting force the whirledz ever seen. Israel has our full support.
Israel's job is to hold the fort till Mama comes to straighten everyone out. Most days Israel does it all by themselves because they have US support.
I do believe in service to your country. I just don't believe it is the military for most folks.
I think some kind of vocational/higher education should be mandatory, or at least free to Americans.
As far as the number of evacs goes...You do understand they are not all coming to America, right? That's thinking in "political terms" right?
Here's another way to look at it...A masacre and/or executions on live TV every once in a while for a decade. If we left those folks there, that's what we'll get. Why? Because nobody has a check on these terrorists and they want to rub our faces in the blood. They'd be propaganda fodder for a murderous cult. We can not let that happen. We've got to get everyone we can out now because it'll be too late once we are gone.
You knew that "unknown" comment was me, right? Something wacky happened when I went to publish. Anyhoo...
DeleteYes, not necessarily military service, but some kind of service should be mandatory. Speaking of propaganda fodder, the Taliban's photo mimicking the flag raising at Iwo Jima is being used by the right wing screamers. They are actively promoting negative propaganda for the opposition, for political gain.
I regularly listen to a former service member on YouTube, who goes by the moniker of Beau Of The 5th Column. If you haven't watched/ heard him, you might like his point of view. Recently he has talked about the equipment left behind in Afghanistan, which he says is not state of the art, as the RWS claim. He had a video a couple days ago about how leaving Afghanistan was always, ALWAYS, going to look like it does right now. That it was inevitable and what it always looks like when an occupying force leaves. I think you'd appreciate his POV.
Biden is doing everything possible to change the optics on this situation and as the numbers of evacuees grows, it is much more difficult to call it a failure. In other news, did you see the reporting yesterday about the incredible volume of documents requested of 6 federal agencies by the Select Committee?
"You knew that "unknown" comment was me, right?"
DeleteI did not
"Yes, not necessarily military service, but some kind of service should be mandatory."
DeleteI could see a thing where global warming could be an avenue where folks could volunteer.
I agree with Beau...Yes, the stuff left behind is all show and no go. Anything functional won't be in short order. The desert is hell on equipment.
Of course the right wing is carrying the enemies water. Mobbed up bunch of 2 bit criminals. The sooner we replace them with some progressive representation we'll all be better off.
As far as Biden goes. I am glad he's insisted on getting us out of there. I think it could have been done a little better. It's hard to criticize at this point because my opinion is the same as it's been for a while. Get out. Get out now.
Iran had F-14's and such as well back in the 70's. They were all sabotaged and or disabled. All the stuff left behind is destroyed for the most part. They may be able to patch together some stuff but nothing of consequence.
Yes, I saw that about the select committee. I have not followed it too close just cause it's like watching snails race. But I am keeping my eye out and do read about it of course.
I checked out Beau...I'll watch a little more and see what he says.
The more I see the more it irritates me.
ReplyDeleteWe need to get these people out. Send C-17's till we empty the streets. Get tankers in the air and have them all in hover patterns and just make a mad dash till the 31st.
The other thing is the pain and heartache I see everywhere. one after the other, a story of tragedy that will likely end in death. They don't know what to do, many have said. They feel helpless and scared. I saw one semi convincing guy in tears over it all except for his airpods in his ears and the fact he couldn't here American CNN reporter asking him questions. His moment to capture 'mercas' hearts and he can give 2 minutes of his time w/o the ear pods in. He also didn't have time to sign up to defend his country. His only move is alligator tears and stand behind his younger minor sister as currency to get on a flight. But no papers. None. Just fear the Taliban will get them and that's about it.
One after the other it's the same basic foundational crap. Tears and what will my children do?
If you are one person with papers...You'll make it onto a plane more likely than one person with a wife and 3 kids and grandma. Ya got to have documentation. You may have to leave people behind in many cases. Yet many of those folks leave them behind anyway push come to literal shove...Soooo
IMO...All of these "men" hide behind their women and children especially when the going gets tough. It's the women leading the first protest march against the Taliban. Having to perpetually encourage the "men" to march with them and chant with them as they walk backwards facing the "men" like capo's at a soccer game. Like I say. We should have armed the women. I mean that.
A bunch of women who been oppressed is given a rifle, training and Americans air support and troop support. I bet you money you'd get a regiment of disciplined fighters out of the bunch. Think what the "men" would do? They'd have to step it up don't you think?
If they'd have put 1/2 the effort in they are expending now to get out of Afghanistan, the Taliban wouldn't have a chance.