Like a lot of liberals I'm not thrilled with the Senate health care reform bill. There's much to criticize. But whatever it is, it is mostly certainly NOT socialism; in fact, my problem with it is that it's too much of a giveaway to the capitalist for-profit money-takers-from-actual-care that we know as insurance companies.
So, whereas it's fine to hear criticism, and even to lump it under a meaningless term like "Obamacare," it's beyond disheartening to think that the loudest voices out there, the ones behind the protests and the deceptive attempts to derail reform (as in insurers taking over movements to preserve their money, and the RNC surreptitiously taking over movements to preserve or return to power) have no f*cking idea what they're talking about. And that they listen to morons like Steven King. (No, not that one.)
I've yet to hear any of these paranoid lunatics even asked -- much less made to answer -- exactly what freedoms have been taken away in the last 15 months. Nor has anyone been forced to explain in what way any of the Obama initiatives are leading us toward socialism. As banks pay back their loans, as car companies head back to solvency and return to independence.
So there they are today, in DC, those righteous protesters, filled with anger and certitude and disinformation swallowed whole, taking cluelessness to unseen levels, making self-destruction an art form. Taking a page from the movie and sticking it in their own ear: I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to understand it anymore!
I do have a question, though, which I hope someone can answer: is this lady a protester of the tea-baggers, or can't she read, or is she simply bereft of irony?
Irony overload, seeing Hamilton's quote on the poster; he was so deeply suspicious of this sort of mass movement based on ignorance. Truman was right; it's the history you don't know.
ReplyDeleteSo why do you want to give stuff to Capitalist-for-profit-money-takers-from-actual-care that we know as insurance companies???
ReplyDeleteAnd calling them "Tea Baggers" is like calling N-Words N-Words except Tea Baggers won't riot and burn your city down.
And Alexander Hamilton was a Pussy.
Frank
Tea Baggers won't riot and burn your city down
ReplyDeleteAnd here I just was, talking about the death of irony.
"Alexander Hamilton was a Pussy"
ReplyDeleteSo a Pussy fought a duel with Burr?
By the way "Tea Baggers" named themselves - and they don't want to burn down cities, they just want to burn the Constitution - like you - Drekman.
EugeneInSanDiego
Eugene, as I suggested to Frank, I'm not so sure they don't want to burn down cities. Guns, revolution? All part of their rhetoric. And that's just the mild stuff.
ReplyDeleteOf course we want to burn down cities. Bomb-throwing terrorists get to pal around with Obama. Maybe even write a book for him. And maybe some of his DOJ attorneys will represent us for free, too.
ReplyDeletejd
Excellent disquisition on Alexander Hamilton, filled with your usual thoughtful analysis and your much-anticipated addition to the discourse. I always hear something new, learn something I'd not known, am encouraged to ponder something rendered in novel terms.
ReplyDeleteThanks, jd; you're the best.
Well, you can't be serious about anything on here, can you? "Burn the Constitution"? While the dems want to pass the biggest legislation of the last 50 years...without actually voting on it?
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure the Constitution requires a vote on stuff. If any of the dems care anymore, which they obviously don't.
Let's see...Anderson Cooper coined "teabagger" (a term he would understand, if you catch my drift). I think EugeneinSpamDiego probably gets it, too. if you catch my drift.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
And you're right--just because Obama likes it doesn't mean that it's socialism...but it's a good place to start.
jd
I have a post coming on that "unconstitutional" thing. Look for it. You might learn something.
ReplyDeleteAlexander Hamilton "fought" his duel like Obama probably would...lot of similarities too...
ReplyDeleteshady past, born and raised in a foreign lands, communtity agitator, bailed out banks, then when the Dick Chaney of his day, Aaron Burr, called him out, Hamilton fought like a pussy, throwin away his shot, thinkin Burr would take the easy way out and throw away his...
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And why did they put the loser on the $10 bill anyway...
Frank
I'm sure it will be more clear that the language of the Constitution itself:
ReplyDelete"But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively."
And more clear than 220 years of interpretation.
I still wonder--if this is such a good bill, why don't the dems just vote for it like every other bill?
jd
Well, jd, you're clearly A-drift, if you catch my meaning.
ReplyDeleteWith moral compass spinning, you are intellectually rudderless, values anchor-less and awash in a leaky republican rowboat: sinking, on a rising tide that raises only luxury yachts.
Like all of your ilk, starving, you comically refuse sustenance; preferring instead to devour the empty words and threats of the political opportunists you lemming-like follow.
Not that there is anything wrong with that! When I read your myopic drivel, I am filled with a deep sense of schadenfreude.
Stuff that innuendo: if you catch my meaning!
EugeneInSanDiego
Gee--and all I did was quote the Constitution! What are you afraid of? Do you hate it that much? Do all dems?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Nancy P will have an actual vote on the great bill. Maybe all the dems will get together and pass what they say is important. I believe it's 4,000 people per week who die because they don't have health care. So what are they waiting for?
And EugeneInSlamDiego--teabagger is your word. You seem pretty comfortable with it. Have fun with it! If you catch my drift...
"And why did they put the loser on the $10 bill anyway..."
ReplyDeleteNow that you mention it, your picture would be a much better example of a loser Drekman.
Guess they couldn't find one.
EugeneInSanDiego
Let's see...Anderson Cooper coined "teabagger"
ReplyDeleteOnce again, jd, words (and your memory) fail you.
EugeneInSanDiego
Hey, jd, if it won't scare you too much to confront oxymoronic contradiction, read this.
ReplyDeleteGo ahead. I won't tell your friends. Use one of those anonymous surfing sites if you don't want to leave tracks.
And, as long as we're on a roll together, read this.
ReplyDeleteI used a throw-down computer to check your sites. I'd hate to catch what they seem to have.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure exactly what your point is--that the dems won't use deem'n'pass, or that they will because it's just fine because Republicans did it on much smaller items.
I know you will only read lefty stuff, but I didn't even have to look very hard to fiind a source you would revere--the network with your idols. have a look here:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/03/17/2231114.aspx
And tell me you think it's fine to pass such a huge bill in such a weasely fashion. Even Obama said there should be an up or down vote.